Hallo,
ich bin letztens wieder über eine Sache gestolpert, die ich noch nicht so ganz verstanden habe:
Wann wird für eine Negation die Vorsilbe "in" benutzt und wann "un"?
Beispiele:
uneven, unbelievable
incorrect, independent
Heißt es jetzt inpolite oder unpolite?
Auswendig lernen kann ja jeder, ist aber nicht so mein Ding. Ich möchte verstehen. Darum geht es mir mehr um eine logische Regel, die ich bislang noch nicht erkennen konnte. Es gibt ja auch noch "im" wie in impossible.
Kann mir das jemand erklären?
So aus der "Hüfte geschossen" würde ich behaupten, dass es da keine Regel gibt, einige Wörter sind lateinischer, einige germanischer, skandinavischer und auch griechischer Herkunft. Ohne jetzt noch mal nachgesehen zu haben,glaube ich, dass die die lateinisch-stämmigen mit "in" und "im" anfangen etc.
Ich hoffe, ich hab' jetzt nichts durcheinander geworfen...
Es heißt übrigens weder inpolite noch unpolite, sondern impolite.
Also ich glaube um's Lernen kommst du da kaum rum. Ich habe da auch manchmal so meine Probleme mit, aber meine Englischlehrerin meinte nur, dass ich am Lernen nicht vorbei komme
Lernen will ich ja, mach ich auch schon seit Jahrzehnten. Auswendig lernen ist aber nicht das gleiche. Klar, bei Vokabeln kommt man nicht daran vorbei. Wo immer es aber Gesetzmäßigkeiten gibt, ist ein tiefes Verständnis dieser Regeln allemal besser. Hat man einmal dieses Verständnis, kann man sogar bislang unbekannte Situationen (Wörter/Probleme etc) daraus ableiten und lösen. Das ist mal ganz allgemein formuliert und betrifft alle Bereiche des Wissens.
Das hab ich noch "woanders" im Netz gefunden, hier werden allerdings auch Prefixe allgemein erläutert (aber auch die "opposites"):
There is no rule. Words with these prefixes have come about through accidents of history. The most usual is "un-", but always consult a dictionary. The following does not really answer your question, but you may find it somewhat useful anyway, especially if you're willing to work to dig some of this out of a dictionary.
Dissertation on "Negative Prefixes" in English.
"a-" is a Greek prefix meaning "not" or "without". It is found almost exclusively with words formed from Greek roots. You can usually spot these by the spellings: "ph", "th", "y", "rh", "chr", "pn", "mn", final "sis" or "ic".
This prefix is found mostly in scientific terminology, especially in the medical sciences. "agranulocytosis", "apnea", "amenorrhea", "anemia", "apraxia", "amitosis".
However, these are not cases where the prefix was applied to an already existing word. Most people know these words as a single unit. They are unaware that the initial "a" has a separate meaning of its own. These should be learned separately, as there are very few pairs like those cited above.
This prefix is also confusable with the native English prefix "a-", as in "ago", "asleep", "aside", which does not have anything to do with negation.
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non- has almost exactly the same meaning as "un-", but is less frequent, and here again the best approach is to learn these separately. It occurs more freely with nouns than many of the other prefixes do. Here are a few common ones:
The last listed is the only one where the stress shifts to the prefix.
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"in-" is a prefix from Latin, so it is usually seen when the root is from Latin. While native English roots tend to be monosyllabic, Latin roots tend to be polysyllabic. "in-"changes to "im-" before "m", "p", and "b". It changes to "il-" before "l" and to "ir-" before "r". This pattern is quite common with adjectives (derived from Latin).
Latin also uses the prefix "in-" in other ways, not necessarily for negation, so caution is advised! For example, "improve" is not the negation of "prove"! Probably the most maddening of these is the word "inflammable", which means the same thing as "flammable", not the opposite! You will sometimes see the word "nonflammable", which is more clearly the opposite of "flammable".
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"dis-" is also a Latinate prefix, but it often means more than the simple negation of "un-". With verbs it may imply some action (often of removal) employed to create a negative state or the absence of something. The difference is usually more obvious in the past participle. Usually the form with "un-" cannot even be used as a verb.
arm / disarm (remove weapons from)
unarmed - not carrying a weapon
disarmed - having had one's weapon(s) taken away
infect / disinfect (remove possible sources of infection)
uninfected - not having an infection
disinfected - having had possible sources of infection removed
qualify / disqualify (remove from competition or consideration)
unqualified - not having the proper qualities or qualifications
disqualified - judged to be unqualified; having been removed from consideration
The prefix "de-" is also sometimes used in the sense of removal, forming verbs from nouns: "defrost", "delouse", "dethrone", "devein", "defrock", "declaw", "deice".
Sometimes the positive form has a prefix which is removed before the negative prefix is added. "encourage / discourage" "consonant / dissonant"
With some dictionary work you should be able to discover the difference between the words in these groups as well. They are rather curious, not to say pathological, examples.
"un-" is the native English prefix for negation, but it combines freely with nonnative roots as well. It is the most used prefix of its kind. It is used with verbs, adjectives, and adverbs, but also sometimes with abstract nouns -- not with concrete nouns ("*an unchair", "*an unbowl"). It can indicate simple negation (adjective) ("happy / unhappy") or it can indicate reversal of a process (verb) ("lock / unlock"). In this latter role, the prefix "de-" is sometimes used instead.
Whenever there is a common word which is the opposite, the "un-" form does not exist: high / low (*unhigh, *unlow) fast / slow (*unfast, *unslow). But speakers sometimes mistakenly use such forms as "unthaw" for "thaw" (freeze / thaw, *unfreeze / *unthaw) or "unloosen" for "loosen" (tighten / loosen, *untighten, *unloosen).
Does "derail" mean "remove the rails from"? If you have all planes removed from the runways, do you deplane the runways? Can you "rail" something? Can you "plane" something? What are the different implications of "attached" and "undetached"? Don't they mean the same thing (because two negatives (un, de) make a positive)? Is decomposing really the reversal of composing?
