alcohol in germany not under 18, a good decision?

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I don't want to spoil your fun, but I don't think a 16-year-old is responsible enough to overlook the consequences of alcohol. Just to name the example binge drinking. It is fun for you but have you ever thought about who will be held responsible at the end of the day? Your parents. The pub owner. And who is paying for all this? Your parents again, the tax payer, the pub owner.

When you're 18 however you will be held responsible for everything you do. And that is the way it should be. You mess up, you are being held responsible. And I have met enough underage people who felt cool and strong and started crying like babies when they indeed were held responsible.

I am well aware of the fact that 16-year-old people think they're adults, have all the experience in the world and parents and teachers are wrong when saying "you're too young to...". I was the same. But looking back, let me tell you that I should have listened to my parents. So maybe you should do the same.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mean to say that you're all binge drinkers. I know you're not. Most of you probably just have a good time, a couple of drinks and go home. But there is a certain percentage of underage people who go out, get drunk (not too say they get properly hammered), cause trouble and fights. And one bad apple spoils the whole bunch.
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I think in some reasons you are right when you talk about the responsibility! Your parents do not really have any chance when her teenager is brought home by police or stands the night in hospital. But the parents are responsibile for the education of their children.

The education of one person build in many way´s his character. So he has not really this feeling that he needs alcohol. But in our society education is in so many ways very bad and when you set the age under 18 the abuse of alcohol of teenager will raise.

If the will drinking alcohol depends on the education of the parents.

So it is senceless to give a new definition of the age drinking alcohol!

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@ Keswick
I'd more or less go along with your opinion.

@ Wise Guy
Parents are responsible for their children, no doubt, but to lay the blame on a lack of education can't be the overall solution.
Parents are more role model for their children than anyone else. When they fail in showing and explaining them was happens and how the outcome might look like, they don't get to know no bounds. When they additionally get into the wrong social environment, which parents can slightly control, it is hard to get the children or teenagers back on track, unless they notice things themself.

So concerning the topic "acohol under 18".... that sounds more like a bad joke. I don't wanna know how deep the producer and publisher got their fingers in it.

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Josh hat geschrieben: So concerning the topic "acohol under 18".... that sounds more like a bad joke. I don't wanna know how deep the producer and publisher got their fingers in it.
I'm not exactely sure what you mean, Josh. Would you explain it please? Thanks :).
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Sure.

What I mean is the fact, that the "alc-industry" does have a big interest in reaching a wide a range potential consumers for their product. So... the younger the buying public, the greater the volume of sales(?). Sure there are laws, but it is in many cases within their financial power to manipulate or at least question the present situation of who and from what age people are/is allowed to consume alcohol. Of course they can't overwhelm politics, but they do have the financial power to push things in their prefered direction.

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Right, now I understand what you meant. Yes, you're probably right with that, Josh. All the alco-pops you can buy now, taste like pop and make you drunk. You know when I was 15 or 16 I didn't like the taste of alcohol. And I think many teenagers of that age don't like the taste either. But the alco-pops don't taste of alcohol. And that is a big problem.
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But the alco-pops don't taste of alcohol. And that is a big problem.
And that's also the way you make young people form a habit, which is in this case the "normal" contact with alcohol.

Your alcohol-taste is pretty much comparable with mine, I totally dislike the taste. Besides I can't stand the feeling of a burning throat, in connection to alc, spicy food is something else. ;)

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Oh I don't mind alcohol today, but I didn't like it when I was younger.
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I'm still holding the abstinence. :)

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I don't like alcohol and I never want to drink it. So I have no problem with it ;)

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Hello boys and girls :D
I'm from Russia, as you definitely know, the biggest country in the world :mrgreen: and distance between different places are bigger than in the US or Australia (in good part :big_thumb: ) but our teenagers aren't allowed to drive cars until 18 :lol:
And I think it is very good, because less young man think about dangerous which unschooled driver is.
About alcohol:
if anybody wants to drink this abomination, you'll do it)) but just think, you pay somebody for your killing. it's the natural selection.

PS. correct my opus :spin: pleeeeeeasssssse

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Helgi hat geschrieben:Hello boys and girls :D
I'm from Russia, as you definitely know, the biggest country in the world :mrgreen:
The distances between different places are bigger than in the US or Australia,
but our teenagers aren't allowed to drive cars until they are 18. :lol:
I think it is a very good law/rule, because young men don't think about the dangers of unschooled driving.

In regard of alcohol:
If young people want to drink alcohol, they'll find a way to do it. :D
Just think about it like this - you pay somebody to kill you or it's simply the natural selection.

PS: Please correct my mistakes. :spin:
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Delfino, herzlichen Dank für deine Korrektur :D :big_thumb:

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Re: alcohol in germany not under 18, a good decision?

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In my opinion,its good that you can buy beer and wine with 16 years,thats not so hard like high in alcohol content drinks like vodka,but you can so one way or another get alkohl when you arent 16 or 18. For example you have friends they are already 18.
Therefore it dont must be that in America you can drink alkohl when you are 21.
Equally its the same with driving a car,its okay to drive when you ar 18,but with 16 i think thats not good,because its to young and many teenagers make in the time expereinces with alcohol,so in their time they can learn that alkohl and drive - its not a good idea.
You can argue hours long about the topic ;)

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