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Hallo Leute :D !!

Könnte sich mal jemand meinen Text anschauen hinsichtlich der Grammatik und der Satzstellung! Hab immer n bißchen Schwierigkeiten mit den Vergangenheitformen!! Ist auch wichtig da ich bal d darüber ne Klausur schreibe!!
Wäre super nett. Ihr würdet mir damit sehr helfen!!! :P
Dankeschön! :big_thumb:


Britain has one of the fastest-growing mixed-race populations. Many Britons are voicing concern at the scale of immigrants and are hostile towards interracial couples. Refugees and immigrants who have been coming from Indian, Bangladesh and the West Indies have always been victims of racial abuse in Britain. The colour and culture of these people was quite different to most Britons. Britons had never before experienced immigration in such huge numbers. The increasing numbers of immigrants who came into the country especially in the 1950s and 1960s has caused some serious problems.
When people had come to Britain from Indian, Pakistan or the West Indies they had hardly anything. They had no money, they hadn’t known anybody and they couldn’t even speak English. They were lonely and feel foreign and the only way to meet people from their home countries was to settle in marginalised neighbourhoods/run-down council estates. They hadn’t any choice, either! Unfortunately, these cottages are separated from British society and aren’t well equipped with sanitary installations, infrastructure and current sink.

They just try to fit in and be a part of everything around them but they still have to face disadvantages in education and employment but also verbal discrimination. It’s very difficult for these people to get a job though, they are well educated. There’s no doubt that ethnic minority groups are more concern with unemployment than the white populations. If they are lucky in getting a job coloured people get often paid less and are the first to be fired in an economic crisis. It’s conspicuous that most immigrants are employed in various branches of industry and in the service sector (bus driver, electrician, dustmen etc.). Of course, not all of them are engaged in menial tasks. The professional immigrants, particularly Asians found employment as doctors and teachers. They could find such a high employment because they already had a high position in their native county.

Many immigrants living in Britain today are second-generation immigrants, which means that their parents were immigrants. This generation face often problems with integration and adaptation. They are torn between the modern Western culture and the traditional native way of life (dichotomy between the modern Western culture on the one hand and the traditional native culture). Therefore, they mostly don’t know to which life style they belong to. They are British and at the same time Muslims, Hindus and Sikhs as well.

On the one hand the second-generation immigrants were born in Britain, grew up in Britain and have been educated in British schools; the way they walk, talk and dress is British. So many children and grandchildren of immigrant ancestors eventually made their home Britain.

Nevertheless, they share on the other hand a common religious identity with their parents. Their parents abide still customs and rituals, for example wearing long dresses and observe a strict diet. The wives have to be obedient, demure, dependent and subordinate to their husbands. Their task is to cook traditional meals, look after the children and organise important celebration, such as arranged weddings. In India it’s tradition that parents choose the husband or the wife for their child, as soon as it’s old enough to marry. They then present their choice to the child who had no alternative but to accept. The self-realisation of women weren’t note. It’s such a life than 150 years ago in Germany. Some Indian families live still as the system of joint families. A joint family includes married brothers and their families, as well as unmarried brothers and sisters, all living under a roof. The eldest male member of the family has authority over all members. Belongings are shared.

The second-generation immigrants in Britain have a dual identity. They live in a Western culture and treat English but are of descent origin. But coming home to their families, they souse into another world. It should be no problem for them to keep their rituals, ideals and moral standards of their community and they should still maintain and preserve their own culture, traditions, language and values; after all, they have an Eastern origin. They should be proud of their heritage and should never forget their roots.
However, the second generation immigrants should try to adapt their lifestyles to the British culture. After all, they were born here and they are going to stay. They should adapt themselves to Britain. But immigrant parents should allow their children to develop their own set of values and moral standards, whether they are British or not.


A good example is the book Life isn’t all Ha Ha Hee Hee by Meera Syal. It’s about three Indian women who had grown up in Britain but they often feel alienated from society and they are irresolute about their own identity. (Newly married Chila, a Punjabi girl, is still close to her childhood confidantes Sunita, a former activist and law student turned depressed housewife and mother, and Tania, who rejected marriage in favour of a high-powered career in television) Finally, each of them goes her own way and handles differently with her dual cultures.
Another example for the problems of integration of immigrants is the short story “My son the fanatic” by Hanif Kureishi. The story is based on the difference between the very religious son Ali and his westernise father Parvez. They have different attitudes of keeping rituals and customs so they misunderstand each other all the time.
A further instance is the film “Kick it like Backham” by Narinder Dhami. The story is about an Indian girl, called Jess, who wants to play football like her hero David Beckham. She joins a football team and gets very successful but her parents don't want her to play because their daughter should behave like an Indian woman and be able to be a good housewife soon.
She has to decide between football and her family, between the Western way of life and the Indian culture and with there are a lot of problems which come up to Jess.


I am of the opinion that it isn’t so hard for Eastern women as it is delineate in many texts. Many Eastern-born and Western-born women are nowadays more integrate into society. They have the opportunity to study and most young people don’t let the parents choose their spouse anymore. They choose their darling themselves, although the wedding is still traditionally arranged.
Everyone should live in a society, where their religious and cultural values are respected and allowed to be expressed freely. Though, in a way in which other people don’t feel bothered by it. Diverse cultures should interact with each other and should show more understanding.
Ethnic minorities need to get more involved in society so they don’t need to feel teased about the colour of their skin or their descent any more. All citizens irrespective of colour, creed, religion or race should get an opportunity to realize their potential.
We should bear in mind that a multi-racial society with many different ethnic minority groups is an enrichment for many areas in life like education, employment and for the whole society in general. The colour of a person’s skin is not important; the only thing that counts is a person’s character. We need more tolerance and acceptation for minority groups in Britain and elsewhere in order to live together in peace and harmony.




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hallo!

habe mal für den ersten teil ein paar vorschläge gemacht....

Great (???)Britain has one of the fastest-growing mixed-race populations. Many Britons are voicing concern at the scale of immigrants and are hostile towards interracial couples. Refugees and immigrants coming from India, Bangladesh and the West Indies have always been victims of racial abuse in Britain, the colour and culture of these people being quite different to most Britons. Never before have Britons experienced immigration in such huge numbers. The increasing numbers of immigrants who came into the country especially in the 1950s and 1960s has caused some serious problems.
When people came to Great Britain from India, Pakistan or the West Indies they had hardly anything. They had no money, they didn't know anybody and they couldn't even speak English. They were lonely and felt foreign and the only way to meet people from their home countries was to settle in marginalised neighbourhoods/run-down council estates. They didn't have any choice, either! Unfortunately, these cottages were separated from British society and weren't well equipped with sanitary facilities, infrastructure and current sink.

They only tried to fit in and be a part of everything around them but they still had to face disadvantages in education and employment and also had to fend off verbal discrimination. Although they were well educated it was very difficult for these people to get a job. There’s no doubt that ethnic minority groups were - and still are - more concerned by unemployment than the rest of the population. If they are lucky to get a job, coloured people will often get paid less and they will be the first ones to be fired in case of an economic crisis. It’s conspicuous that most immigrants are employed in certain branches of industry and in the service sector (bus driver, electrician, dustmen etc.). Of course, not all of them are engaged in menial jobs. The professional (well educated???) immigrants, particularly Asians, have been able to find employment as doctors and teachers due to their already high position in their native county.

Many immigrants living in Britain today are second-generation immigrants, which means that their parents were immigrants. This generation often faces problems with integration and adaptation. They are torn between the modern Western culture and the traditional native way of life (dichotomy between the modern Western culture on the one hand and the traditional native culture). Therefore, they often don’t know to which life style they belong. They are British and Muslims, Hindus or Sikhs at the same time.

On the one hand, the second-generation immigrants were born in Britain, grew up in Britain and were educated in British schools; the way they walk, talk and dress is British. Eventually, many children and grandchildren of immigranted ancestors made Britain their home.

On the other hand, they share a common religious identity with their parents. Their parents still abide their traditional customs and rituals, for example wearing long dresses or observe a strict diet. Wives have to be obedient, demure, dependent and subordinate to their husbands. Their chores are to cook traditional meals, look after the children and organise important celebrations, such as prearranged weddings. In India it’s a tradition that parents choose the husband or the wife for their child as soon as he or she is old enough to get married. They then present their choice to the child who has no alternative but to accept. The self-realisation of women weren’t note (The wishes for self-realisation of women weren't taken into consideration????). It's what life had been like in Germany about 150 years ago . Some Indian families still live in a system of joint families. A joint family includes married brothers and their families, as well as unmarried brothers and sisters, all living under one roof. The eldest male member of the family has the authority over all members. Belongings are shared within the family.

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Hey danke erstmal dafür licorice_lilly :big_thumb:

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gerne... bis wann brauchst du den rest???

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Also ich schreibe Di. die Klausur und wollte noch n paar schöne Sätze auswendig lernen.... :D So erhöhe ich mein Ausdrücksvermögen....! Der Text ist eigentlich noch ein bißchen länger! Könnte ich aus dem vorigen Text ein paar Sätze hinschreiben bei denen du einen Blick draufwirfst bei denen ich mir nicht sicher bin?!?!

Bei den Text den du dir schon angeschaut hast.... Du hast bei vielen Sätzen die Vergangenheitsform benutzt obwohl es ja immer noch aktuell ist for example es kommen ja immer noch Menschen noch Great Britain und müssen in heruntergekommenen Hütten hausen!! Siehst du das nicht so oder weshalb past tense??:o

Woher kannst du eigentlich so gut Englisch??? :question:

Bis bald
Liebe Grüße
Tippie
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hallo tippie,

ich habe den anfang ins past gesetzt, weil ich dachte, dass das die beschreibung der situation zur zeit der riesen einwanderungswelle in den 50er und 60er jahren ist... im vergleich dazu schreibst du ja später über einwandere in der zweiten generation, und der teil ist dann present perfect...

vielleicht kann sich hierzu noch mal einer der muttersprachler zu äussern, für mich hat der text so einfach mehr sinn gemacht...

du kannst gerne noch anderes posten und ich sehe es mir an... der zweite teil von diesem text kommt spätestens morgen....

mein englisch habe ich nach der schulzeit (englisch LK) eigentlich irgendwie selbst erweitert... meist mit büchern, filmen und schreiben... daher sind grammatikfragen auch nicht unbedingt meine stärke, ich mach vieles aus dem gefühl und liege damit auch meistens richtig... ich war übrigens von deinem wortschatz-wissen äußerst beeindruckt, das ist wirklich aussergewöhlich für schulstandard...

viele grüsse und bis bald,
marie

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sorry, mehr habe ich heute nicht geschafft... rest kommt morgen....

The second-generation immigrants in Britain have a dual identity. They live in a Western culture and treat English but are of descent origin (i don't get what you mean with 'treat English' and decent origin???). But coming home to their families, they dunk into another world. In my opinion, it should be no problem for them to keep the rituals, ideals and moral standards of their community and they should still be able to maintain and preserve their own culture, traditions, language and values; after all, they have an Eastern origin. They should be proud of their heritage and should never forget their roots.
However, I think that the second generation immigrants should try to adapt their lifestyles to the British culture. (kein after all wegen wiederholung)They were born there and they are going to stay. They should adapt themselves to Britain.(würde ich weglassen, das hast du genau so schon gesagt) Therefore, parents from different culture groups should allow their children to develop their own set of values and moral standards, whether they are British or not.


A good example (for what????) is the book 'Life isn’t all Ha Ha Hee Hee' by Meera Syal. It’s about three Indian women who had grown up in Britain but they often feel alienated from society and they are in doubt about their own identity. (Newly-married Chila, a Punjabi girl, who is still close to her childhood confidantes Sunita, a former activist and law student, who had turned into a depressed housewife and mother, and Tania, who had rejected marriage in favour of a high-powered career in television) In the end, each of them cuts her own path and deals differently with her dual cultures.

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... ja jetzt ist's doch noch fertig geworden...

Another example for the problems of integration of immigrants is the short story “My son the fanatic” by Hanif Kureishi. The story is based on the difference between the very religious son Ali and his westernised father Parvez. They have different attitudes towards keeping rituals and customs and therefore misunderstand each other all the time.
A further instance is the film “Kick it like Backham” by Narinder Dhami. The story is about an Indian girl called Jess who wants to play football like her hero David Beckham. She joins a football team and becomes very successful. But her parents don't want her to play because they think their daughter should behave like an Indian woman and soon be able to be a good housewife.
She has to decide between football and her family, between the Western way of life and the Indian culture, which causes Jess a lot of problems.


In my opinion, the integration of women from the East in Western societies is not as hard as it's being described in many texts. Nowadays, many women from Eastern origins are more integrated into Western society. They have the opportunity to study and most young people don’t let the parents choose their spouses anymore. They choose their partners themselves, although the wedding is still arranged traditionally.
I think that everyone should live in a society, where their religious and cultural values are respected and where they are alsoallowed to be expressed freely. Nevertheless, this should be done in a way that doesn't bother other people. Diverse cultures should interact with each other and should show more understanding.
Ethnic minorities need to get more involved in society so they wouldn't feel discriminated for the colour of their skin or their descent any more. All citizens irrespective of colour, creed, religion or race should get an opportunity to realize their potential.
We should bear in mind that a multi-racial society with many different ethnic minority groups is an enrichment in many aspects of life, such as education and professional life and for the whole society in general. The colour of someone's skin is not important; the only thing that counts is their character. We need more tolerance and acceptance for minority groups in Britain and in the world in order to live together in peace and harmony.

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Hey Marie,
mensch da haste aber noch kräftig reingehauen :shock: :lol: Nicht schlecht!! Hast dich ja sogar an der Nacht daran gemacht! Respect!!!
mein englisch habe ich nach der schulzeit (englisch LK) eigentlich irgendwie selbst erweitert... meist mit büchern, filmen und schreiben... daher sind grammatikfragen auch nicht unbedingt meine stärke, ich mach vieles aus dem gefühl und liege damit auch meistens richtig... ich war übrigens von deinem wortschatz-wissen äußerst beeindruckt, das ist wirklich aussergewöhlich für schulstandard...
Hast du dir selbst beigebracht. Das ist schon ne Leistung! :freu:
Danke für das Lob! Bin auch Englisch LK und wollt mal n bißchen "protzen" :mrgreen: Nein, nicht wirklich aber es sieht doch- hoffe ich zumindestens- in der Arbeit dann ganz gut aus :wink1:
ich habe den anfang ins past gesetzt, weil ich dachte, dass das die beschreibung der situation zur zeit der riesen einwanderungswelle in den 50er und 60er jahren ist... im vergleich dazu schreibst du ja später über einwandere in der zweiten generation, und der teil ist dann present perfect...
Das ist echt nicht so leicht. Da vieles was ich geschrieben habe ja immernoch auf die Einwanderer zutrifft. Deshalb bin ich manchmal auch n bißchen überfordert. Aber das wird schon!
They live in a Western culture and treat English but are of descent origin
They live in a Western society and behave accordingly Western or British but they have an Eastern descent at the same time. Do u understand?

A good example (for what????) for the dichotomy inside second-generation immigrants is the book 'Life isn’t all Ha Ha Hee Hee' by Meera Syal.


Sind die sätze soweit correct?

Fortunately, being citizens of commonwealth countries, they could legally immigrate into Britain.


Immigrants saw Britain as the praised country in which they hoped to find a future. Especially after the Second World War there was a labour shortage and Britain needed cheap male labourer for its economic growth.


Many have planned to work hard as guest workers for a few years, send the earned money to their families and return to their families after saving enough capital. With it they could secure a better future by building their own houses, set up their own business or shops. But most of them, however, often disillusioned with Britain, decided to settle in Britain. The men have induced their families to immigrate to Britain promising that they will have a better life. But life isn’t so easy for coloured people in a Western country.

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Tippie hat geschrieben:They live in a Western society and behave accordingly Western or British but they have an Eastern descent at the same time. Do u understand?
They live in a Western society and therefore behave according to Western or British standards. At the same time, their descent is an Eastern one.
Tippie hat geschrieben:A good example (for what????) for the dichotomy inside second-generation immigrants is the book 'Life isn’t all Ha Ha Hee Hee' by Meera Syal.
A good example for the quandary, often faced by second-generation immigrants, is the book...
Tippie hat geschrieben:
Sind die sätze soweit correct?

Fortunately, being citizens of commonwealth countries, they could legally immigrate into Britain.
Being citizens of a country of the Commonwealth, they were fortunate to be able to immigrate to Britain legally.

oder:

Due to the fact that they were citizens of...

Tippie hat geschrieben:Immigrants saw Britain as the praised country in which they hoped to find a future. Especially after the Second World War there was a labour shortage and Britain needed cheap male labourer for its economic growth.
Immigrants considered Britain the praised country, in which they hoped to find a future. Especially after World War II there was a labour shortage and cheap male labourers were needed for the economic growth in Britain.


und der letzte:
Tippie hat geschrieben:Many have planned to work hard as guest workers for a few years, sendimg the money they earned to their families and returning to their mother countries after having saved enough money. Therewith they could ensure a better future, for example by building their own houses and setting up their own businesses or shops. However, most of them, often deflated by their experiences, decided to settle in Britain. They convinced their families to immigrate to Britain, promising that they will have a better life. But life isn’t so easy for coloured people in a Western country.
hoffe das hilft,
viele grüße,
marie

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Na klar Marie,
du hast mir sehr geholfen :lol:

Ich hab allerding noch eine Frage.
In my opinion, the integration of women from the East in Western societies is not as hard as it's being described in many texts. Nowadays, many women from Eastern origins are more integrated into Western society. They have the opportunity to study
Hier wollte ich nicht nur auf die Integration der Frauen in die westlichen Länder eingehen sondern auch in den Eastern countries selbst. All over the world sind Frauen selbstbewusster geworden und lassen sich nicht mehr so "unterbuttern" wie noch vor ein paar Jahrzehnten!

In my opinion, the integration of women of Eastern as well as Western descent is not as hard as it's being described in many texts. Nowadays, many women from Eastern ans Western origins are more integrated into society.

geht das so???? :question:

Was hältst du eigentlich von dem Thema Integration? Bist du eher dafür dass sich aliens/foreigners should adapt themselves to the culture in which they life. Oder sollten sie ihre Rituale und Bräuche frei ausleben und darauf bestehen?

BIS DANN
CIAOI :wink:

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Tippie hat geschrieben:
In my opinion, the integration of women from the East in Western societies is not as hard as it's being described in many texts. Nowadays, many women from Eastern origins are more integrated into Western society. They have the opportunity to study
Hier wollte ich nicht nur auf die Integration der Frauen in die westlichen Länder eingehen sondern auch in den Eastern countries selbst. All over the world sind Frauen selbstbewusster geworden und lassen sich nicht mehr so "unterbuttern" wie noch vor ein paar Jahrzehnten!

In my opinion, the integration of women from Eastern as well as from Western descent is not as hard as it's being described in many texts. Nowadays, many women from Eastern ans Western origins are more integrated into society.

geht das so???? :question:
das geht, klingt aber immernoch irgendwie sehr kompliziert...

In my opinion, the integration of women in general, regardless their descent, is not as hard as it's being described in many texts. Nowadays, many women from Eastern and from Western origins are more integrated into society.
Tippie hat geschrieben:Was hältst du eigentlich von dem Thema Integration? Bist du eher dafür dass sich aliens/foreigners should adapt themselves to the culture in which they life. Oder sollten sie ihre Rituale und Bräuche frei ausleben und darauf bestehen?

BIS DANN
CIAOI :wink:
das ist eine sehr komplexe frage, über die ich wohl seitenweise schreiben könnte... aber im grunde denke ich dass jeder die freiheit haben sollte seine persönlichen Bedürfnisse auszuleben, selbstversändlich jedoch ohne die grenzen anderer zu verletzen. ein gewisses mass an anpassung an die kultur in der man lebt ist sicher notwendig, und zwar für beide seiten...

sorry für die kurze antwort, aber ich bin schon ziemlich müde....

viele grüße,
marie

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Yuchuuuuuuu :freu:
Hab die Arbeit hinter mir!! Frag mich aber nicht wies war. Kann das immer überhaupt nicht einschätzen.
Mal gucken wies wird, der Focus der Arbeit lag auf mixed-race und same-race realtionships.

Danke nochmal für die Hilfe :big_thumb:
Bis dann

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ich hoffe mal mit dir auf ein gutes ergebnis!!!

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